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Atom and Archetype. The Pauli / Jung Letters, 1932-1958

Reference
Jung, C. G. and Pauli, W. Ed. Meier, C. A. (2001) Atom and Archetype. The Pauli / Jung Letters, 1932-1958. Routledge, London and New York.

xxxiv “In a metaphysical leap, Pauli referred as well to “forms belonging to the unconscious region of the human soul” and stated that “the relation between a sense perception and Idea remains a consequence of the fact that both the soul and what is known in perception are subject to an order objectively conceived.”25 He acknowledged that he had realised in a dream that the quantum-mechanical conception of nature lacked the second dimension, which he found provided by the archetypes of the unconscious.”
25Heisenberg (1974) Across the Frontiers, pp. 31-32

xl Interesting comments on this page about the evolution of consciousness as the compass to the psychological metaphors or descriptions.

xli Quoting Steiner: “…Large areas of meaning and praxis now belong to such non-verbal languages as mathematics, symbolic logic, and formulas of chemical or electronic relation.55
55Steiner (1969) Language and Silence. pp. 44-45

“Pauli sought “to find a new language that could make the hidden dimension in nature accessible to the intellect …neutral with respect to the distinction between psyche and matter … from the physical and mathematical symbols…in his dreams.””

xlii Quoting von Franz “.. A psychology which does not keep pace with the findings of other sciences seems to me no good.”59
59von Franz (1992) Psyche and Matter. p. 288

xlvii A good read on how the language of science is not sufficient for the language of the psyche.

“Here Jung and Pauli diverged. Jung saw psychic libido as related to mana, “meaning,” and the feeling function. This is “the specific value but also the limitation of psychology … The vagueness of meaning forces us to go beyond science …to myth. That inevitably leads to antinomies and an obscuring of scientific clarity … because we have to deal with the human individual as a whole.” Ultimately, then, “the meaningful but rather vague language of myth is in [Jung's] view more appropriate to the description of psychological facts.”78
78von Franz (1992) Psyche and Matter. p. 289

Worth highlighting the footnote about the books of John William Dunne:
p8 8J
dJohn William Dunne (1875-1949). Regarding the multidimensionality of time, see his Experiment with Time; cf. also his book The Serial Universe, pp. 148-54. Jung later refers to the “Volcano dream” of Dunne (An Experiment with Time, p. 34ff.), in his 1952 essay on “Synchronicity,” CW 8, pars. 852-53.

p12 13P Pauli mentions Resonances, Harmonics…coincidence of waves.

p13 14J
“Generally speaking, the unconscious is thought of as psychic matter in an individual. However, the self-representation drawn up by the unconscious of its central structure does not accord with this view, for everything points to the fact that the central structure of the collective unconscious cannot be fixed locally but is an ubiquitous existence identical to itself; it must not be seen in spatial terms and consequently, when projected onto space, is to be found everywhere in that space. I even have the feeling that this peculiarity applies to time as well as space.”

p84 - p133 I found letters 58P to 67J to be most interesting. Here J. and Pauli talk about the language of the psyche, numbers, complimentarily, symmetry, the border between psyche and matter and the relationship between spirit, psyche and matter. They talk of the 'third thing' that can understand the two. The difficulty with going from three to four, and so much more. Letter 76P and 77J are good to in discussing symmetry and UFO's.

p99 ”“Ars totum requirit hominem!” For only from his wholeness can man create a model of the whole.” (emphasis mine)

p126 “Psyched and matter, as a “matrix,” are both an X - i.e., a transcendental unknown quantity and thus indistinguishable in conceptual terms, which makes them virtually identical; only on a secondary level are they different, as different aspects of Being.
Amon the things that are part of the substance of the psychic are psychoid archetypes. The characteristic that is peculiar to the archetype is that it manifests itself not only psychically-subjectively but also physically-objectively; in other words, it is possible that it can be proved to be both psychic inner occurrence and also a physical external one. I regard this phenomenon as an indication of the fact that the physical and psychic matrix is identical.” (emphasis mine)

p127 “In consequence of the indispensability of the psychic processes, there cannot be just one way of access to the secret of Being; there must be at least two - namely, the material occurrence on the one hand and the psychic reflection of it on the other (although it will be hard to determine what is reflecting what!).
Given these circumstances, the task facing these two disciplines is to locate and describe that region which is indisputably common to both. My dreams and my intuition have both referred me to natural numbers. …
I therefore believe that from the psychological point of view at least, the sought-after borderland between physics and psychology lies in the secret of the number. Hence the saying, fittingly enough, that man made mathematics but God made the whole numbers.a

p128 “Any classification of psychology into a general theoretical form of physics, as has happened with chemistry, is out of the question in my opinion, because of the fact that psychic processes cannot be measured, …”

p129 “Oddly enough, the problem is still the same 2,000-year-old one: How does one get from Three to Four?”

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