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| §5 "The term "représentations collectives," used by Lévy-Bruhl to denote the symbolic figures in the primitive view of the world, could easily be applied to unconscious contents as well, ....Primitive tribal lore is concerned with archetypes that have been modified in a special way. They are no longer contents of the unconscious, but have already been changed in to conscious formulae taught according to tradition, generally in the form of esoteric teaching. This last is a typical means of expression for the //transmission of collective contents originally derived from the unconscious//." <fc green>(Emphasis mine). Jung elaborates further on regarding the origins of the content. However, in the matter of the 'transmission' I find it useful to understand the rôle of ritual and how it - without the individual knowing in most cases - brings or gives expression to unconscious content, necessarily so I think is crucial too. As we have lost ritual and tradition in many ways with our modern culture, we have neglected or taken away a platform for our unconscious and not replaced it with anything. </fc> | §5 "The term "représentations collectives," used by Lévy-Bruhl to denote the symbolic figures in the primitive view of the world, could easily be applied to unconscious contents as well, ....Primitive tribal lore is concerned with archetypes that have been modified in a special way. They are no longer contents of the unconscious, but have already been changed in to conscious formulae taught according to tradition, generally in the form of esoteric teaching. This last is a typical means of expression for the //transmission of collective contents originally derived from the unconscious//." <fc green>(Emphasis mine). Jung elaborates further on regarding the origins of the content. However, in the matter of the 'transmission' I find it useful to understand the rôle of ritual and how it - without the individual knowing in most cases - brings or gives expression to unconscious content, necessarily so I think is crucial too. As we have lost ritual and tradition in many ways with our modern culture, we have neglected or taken away a platform for our unconscious and not replaced it with anything. </fc> |
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| §6 "The archetype is essentially an unconscious content that is altered by becoming conscious and by being perceived, and it takes its colour from the individual consciousness in which it happens to appear.<fc red><sup>9</sup></fc>"\\ <fc red><sup>9</sup></fc><sub>One must, for the sake of accuracy, distinguish between "archetype" and "archetypal ideas." The archetype as such is a hypothetical and irrepresentable model, something like the "pattern of behaviour" in biology. Cf "[[aker:collected_works:cw8|On the nature of the Psyche]]," sec. 7.</sub>\\ | §6 "The archetype is essentially an unconscious content that is altered by becoming conscious and by being perceived, and it takes its colour from the individual consciousness in which it happens to appear.<fc red><sup>9</sup></fc>"\\ <fc red><sup>9</sup></fc><sub>One must, for the sake of accuracy, distinguish between "archetype" and "archetypal ideas." The archetype as such is a hypothetical and irrepresentable model, something like the "pattern of behaviour" in biology. Cf "[[collected_works:cw8|On the nature of the Psyche]]," sec. 7.</sub>\\ |
| <fc green>This will make life tricky as the material is mixed between 'archetypal' and personal in expression. Cf. para 28, [[aker:collected_works:cw9ii|Aion CW9ii]] ...although this has more to do with projection.</fc> | <fc green>This will make life tricky as the material is mixed between 'archetypal' and personal in expression. Cf. para 28, [[aker:collected_works:cw9ii|Aion CW9ii]] ...although this has more to do with projection.</fc> |
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| <fc green>This is a full paragraph quote, but worth it I think as it says so much: </fc>\\ | <fc green>This is a full paragraph quote, but worth it I think as it says so much: </fc>\\ |
| §8 "Primitive man impresses us so strongly with his subjectivity that we should really have guessed long ago that myths refer to something psychic. His knowledge of nature is essentially the language and outer dress of an unconscious psychic process. But the very fact that this process is unconscious gives us the reason why man has thought of everything except the psyche in his attempts to explain myths. He simply didn't know that the psyche contains all the images that have ever given rise to myths, and that our unconscious is an acting and suffering subject with an inner drama which primitive man rediscovers, by means of analogy, in the processes of nature both great and small.<fc red><sup>11</sup></fc>"\\ <fc red><sup>11</sup></fc><sub>Cf. my papers on the divine child and the Kore in the present volume, and Kerenyi's complementary essays in //[[aker:books_and_literature:essays_on_a_science_of_mythology|Essays on [or Introduction to] a Science of Mythology]]//.</sub> | §8 "Primitive man impresses us so strongly with his subjectivity that we should really have guessed long ago that myths refer to something psychic. His knowledge of nature is essentially the language and outer dress of an unconscious psychic process. But the very fact that this process is unconscious gives us the reason why man has thought of everything except the psyche in his attempts to explain myths. He simply didn't know that the psyche contains all the images that have ever given rise to myths, and that our unconscious is an acting and suffering subject with an inner drama which primitive man rediscovers, by means of analogy, in the processes of nature both great and small.<fc red><sup>11</sup></fc>"\\ <fc red><sup>11</sup></fc><sub>Cf. my papers on the divine child and the Kore in the present volume, and Kerenyi's complementary essays in //[[books_and_literature:essays_on_a_science_of_mythology|Essays on [or Introduction to] a Science of Mythology]]//.</sub> |
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| [[aker:Religion|Σ]] §11 "Why have we not long since discovered the unconscious and raised up its treasure-house of eternal images? Simply because we had a religious formula for everything psychic - and one that is far more beautiful and comprehensive than immediate experience. ... Naturally, the more familiar we are with them the more does constant usage polish them smooth, so that what remains is only banal superficiality and meaningless paradox. ..." <fc green>Definitely worth reading further here ...this whole paragraph.</fc> "That people should succumb to these eternal images is entirely normal, in fact it is what these images are for. They are meant to attract, to convince, to fascinate, and to overpower. ... That is why they always give man a premonition of the divine while at the same time safeguarding him from immediate experience of it. Thanks to the labours of the human spirit over the centuries, these images have become embedded in a comprehensive system of thought that ascribes an order to the world, and are at the same time represented by a mighty, far-spread, and venerable institution called the Church." | [[aker:Religion|Σ]] §11 "Why have we not long since discovered the unconscious and raised up its treasure-house of eternal images? Simply because we had a religious formula for everything psychic - and one that is far more beautiful and comprehensive than immediate experience. ... Naturally, the more familiar we are with them the more does constant usage polish them smooth, so that what remains is only banal superficiality and meaningless paradox. ..." <fc green>Definitely worth reading further here ...this whole paragraph.</fc> "That people should succumb to these eternal images is entirely normal, in fact it is what these images are for. They are meant to attract, to convince, to fascinate, and to overpower. ... That is why they always give man a premonition of the divine while at the same time safeguarding him from immediate experience of it. Thanks to the labours of the human spirit over the centuries, these images have become embedded in a comprehensive system of thought that ascribes an order to the world, and are at the same time represented by a mighty, far-spread, and venerable institution called the Church." |
| §386 "A very widespread view conceives spirit as a higher and psyche as a lower principle of activity, and conversely the alchemists thought of spirit as the //ligamentum animae et corporis//, <fc green>(The ligament between body = corporis and soul = animae)</fc> obviously regarding it as a //spiritus vegetativus// (the later life spirit or nerve-spirit)." | §386 "A very widespread view conceives spirit as a higher and psyche as a lower principle of activity, and conversely the alchemists thought of spirit as the //ligamentum animae et corporis//, <fc green>(The ligament between body = corporis and soul = animae)</fc> obviously regarding it as a //spiritus vegetativus// (the later life spirit or nerve-spirit)." |
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| §387 "From time immemorial emotion has been regarded as possession, which is why we still say today, of a hot-tempered person, that he is possessed of a devil or that an evil spirit has entered into him.<fc red><sup>3</sup></fc>\\ <fc red><sup>3</sup></fc><sub>See my "[[aker:collected_works:cw8#601//648//Spirit//and//Life|Spirit and Life]]" <fc green>(In [[aker:collected_works:cw8|CW8]] )</fc></sub> | §387 "From time immemorial emotion has been regarded as possession, which is why we still say today, of a hot-tempered person, that he is possessed of a devil or that an evil spirit has entered into him.<fc red><sup>3</sup></fc>\\ <fc red><sup>3</sup></fc><sub>See my "[[collected_works:cw8#601//648//Spirit//and//Life|Spirit and Life]]" <fc green>(In [[collected_works:cw8|CW8]] )</fc></sub> |
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| <fc green>Jung spends some time in these paragraphs going through the 'score or so of meanings and shades of meaning attributable to the word "spirit". ...and then...</fc>\\ | <fc green>Jung spends some time in these paragraphs going through the 'score or so of meanings and shades of meaning attributable to the word "spirit". ...and then...</fc>\\ |
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| §452 "We could say, then, that the swineherd stands for the "animal" man who has a soul-mate somewhere in the upper world. By her royal birth she betrays her connection with the preexistent, semi-divine pair. Looked at from this angle, the latter stands for everything a man can become if only he climbs high enough up the world-tree.<sup><fc red>66</fc></sup>\\ <sup><fc red>66</fc></sup><sub>The great tree corresponds to the arbor philosophica of the alchemists. The meeting between an earthly human being and the anima, swimming down in the shape of a mermaid, is to be found in the so-called "[[aker:books_and_literature:ripley_scrowle|Ripley Scrowle.]]" Cf. [[aker:collected_works:cw12|Psychology and Alchemy, fig. 257]].</sub> | §452 "We could say, then, that the swineherd stands for the "animal" man who has a soul-mate somewhere in the upper world. By her royal birth she betrays her connection with the preexistent, semi-divine pair. Looked at from this angle, the latter stands for everything a man can become if only he climbs high enough up the world-tree.<sup><fc red>66</fc></sup>\\ <sup><fc red>66</fc></sup><sub>The great tree corresponds to the arbor philosophica of the alchemists. The meeting between an earthly human being and the anima, swimming down in the shape of a mermaid, is to be found in the so-called "[[books_and_literature:ripley_scrowle|Ripley Scrowle.]]" Cf. [[aker:collected_works:cw12|Psychology and Alchemy, fig. 257]].</sub> |
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