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 <fc red>t<sub>2</sub></fc> = <fc red>t<sub>1</sub></fc> to <fc red>t<sub>2</sub></fc> is the time it takes our sense apparatus to send signals and for the brain matter to receive the signal.  For example, the time it takes for the signal to travel via the optic nerve to the brain with the information about the object.  \\  <fc red>t<sub>2</sub></fc> = <fc red>t<sub>1</sub></fc> to <fc red>t<sub>2</sub></fc> is the time it takes our sense apparatus to send signals and for the brain matter to receive the signal.  For example, the time it takes for the signal to travel via the optic nerve to the brain with the information about the object.  \\ 
 xRef research [[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2826883/|The effects of age on sensory thresholds and temporal gap detection in hearing, vision, and touch]] \\  xRef research [[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2826883/|The effects of age on sensory thresholds and temporal gap detection in hearing, vision, and touch]] \\ 
 +Also [[http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/how-does-a-chicken-tell-time|telling time]]\\ 
 <fc red>t<sub>3</sub></fc> = <fc red>t<sub>2</sub></fc> to <fc red>t<sub>3</sub></fc> is the time for the brain to perceive or place these signals into the brain as a tree.  I'm not even sure if this is the correct way to describe this.\\  <fc red>t<sub>3</sub></fc> = <fc red>t<sub>2</sub></fc> to <fc red>t<sub>3</sub></fc> is the time for the brain to perceive or place these signals into the brain as a tree.  I'm not even sure if this is the correct way to describe this.\\ 
 <fc red>t<sub>4</sub></fc> = <fc red>t<sub>3</sub></fc> is the point at which the tree as an engram exists in the brain.  It would be reasonable to assume <fc red>t<sub>4</sub></fc> is equal to <fc red>t<sub>3</sub></fc> were it not for the fact that consciousness of the tree is different to the engram of the tree in the brain.  Moreover as I mention later, the object may already exist in consciousness without having been seen and placed as an engram into the brain.  In this example it is a tree but it could be anything. \\ That said there is another objection to <fc red>t<sub>3</sub></fc> and <fc red>t<sub>4</sub></fc> being separate times: <fc red>t<sub>4</sub></fc> exists where there is no time.  The coming to consciousness of the tree object occurs in a non-time place, the place of psyche and consciousness.  This raises questions about the limitations of the psyche to bring objects to consciousness.  I do not know those questions and I think it has something to do with the border between psyche and matter.  Perhaps <fc red>t<sub>4</sub></fc> is not a time marker but the event of the tree coming into consciousness.   <fc red>t<sub>4</sub></fc> = <fc red>t<sub>3</sub></fc> is the point at which the tree as an engram exists in the brain.  It would be reasonable to assume <fc red>t<sub>4</sub></fc> is equal to <fc red>t<sub>3</sub></fc> were it not for the fact that consciousness of the tree is different to the engram of the tree in the brain.  Moreover as I mention later, the object may already exist in consciousness without having been seen and placed as an engram into the brain.  In this example it is a tree but it could be anything. \\ That said there is another objection to <fc red>t<sub>3</sub></fc> and <fc red>t<sub>4</sub></fc> being separate times: <fc red>t<sub>4</sub></fc> exists where there is no time.  The coming to consciousness of the tree object occurs in a non-time place, the place of psyche and consciousness.  This raises questions about the limitations of the psyche to bring objects to consciousness.  I do not know those questions and I think it has something to do with the border between psyche and matter.  Perhaps <fc red>t<sub>4</sub></fc> is not a time marker but the event of the tree coming into consciousness.  
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